Gavin Newsom made headlines by inviting conservative activist Charlie Kirk to be the first guest on his new podcast, “This is Gavin Newsom.” Now Kirk is speaking out about the experience of sitting down to talk politics with his ideological opposite,

Megyn Kelly is warning MAGA influencers not to appear on Gavin Newsom’s new podcast, arguing that the California governor’s guests are really helping him more than themselves. During an interview on her podcast The Megyn Kelly Show with MAGA youth activist Charlie Kirk—who was Newsom’s first guest when his podcast launched earlier this month—Kelly argued that Newsom’s new venture was just a form of spring training for a presidential run.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom started a new podcast, where he interviews conservative guests in an effort to reach across the aisle and find common ground.